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[Eula D.] 12:24 pm: Hi Gingee!
[GingerMarks] 12:26 pm: Eula!
[GingerMarks] 12:26 pm: Hellow dear
[GingerMarks] 12:26 pm: can't spell today!
[GingerMarks] 12:26 pm: lol
[Eula D.] 12:26 pm: How are you?
[GingerMarks] 12:27 pm: working on business building stuff.
[Eula D.] 12:27 pm: lol I 'll let it slide this time
[Eula D.] 12:27 pm: excellent
[GingerMarks] 12:27 pm: did you read the article?
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[jackie57] 12:30 pm: Hi
[GingerMarks] 12:30 pm: hello Jackie
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[jackie57] 12:30 pm: I have material for this chat here:http://www.networkingforher.com/blogs/godward
[Under the Waterfall]: Eula D. has entered at 12:31 pm
[GingerMarks] 12:31 pm: is that the article?
[jackie57] 12:31 pm: Just a few Scriptures to refer to
[Eula D.] 12:31 pm: I can't seem to stay in the room LOL
[GingerMarks] 12:31 pm: ok
[GingerMarks] 12:31 pm: lol
[jackie57] 12:32 pm: the article can be downloaded on the site for Winning Sisters- thanks for that, Ginger
[GingerMarks] 12:34 pm: So the verses say to believe with all your heart what God has promised.
[jackie57] 12:34 pm: In this session we are going to examine four ideas in the form of eternal principles and each idea has a Scripture that goes with it and can be found at http://www.networkingforher.com/blogs/godward
[GingerMarks] 12:34 pm: Is that the message
[Under the Waterfall]: rtemplet has entered at 12:35 pm
[jackie57] 12:35 pm: it begins with Exodus 4 :1-17 The Lord gives Moses power
[GingerMarks] 12:35 pm: Hello RebeccaT
[rtemplet] 12:35 pm: hiya my friend!
[GingerMarks] 12:36 pm: Jackie is presenting. did you read the article
[jackie57] 12:36 pm: The Scripture in Exodus refers to a time Moses felt great self-doubt Exodus 4 :1-17
[rtemplet] 12:36 pm: hi jackie, i have been out of the loop for awhile, good to see you.
[rtemplet] 12:36 pm: yes, i read the article.
[jackie57] 12:37 pm: The first point or idea to consider is God affirms us by loving us unconditionallly
[jackie57] 12:38 pm: Go to: http://www.networkingforher.com/blogs/godward to see the set of Scriptures, if you wish
[jackie57] 12:39 pm: The second point asserts that God made us and all His works are wonderful Psalm 139 :1-18
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[jackie57] 12:40 pm: The third point teaches God does not focus on our earthly bodies which are temporal but on our souls which are eternal 1 Samuel 16:1-13
[GingerMarks] 12:40 pm: Hi Becca
[Rebecca W] 12:40 pm: Hello Ginger
[GingerMarks] 12:41 pm: So we are valuable to God and others
[jackie57] 12:41 pm: The fourth point relates to Fear of Failure, lack of confidence and procrastination as by=products of low self-worth that can keep us from doing God's will Exodus 4: 1-17
[jackie57] 12:42 pm: In the article Shea shared her struggles with unworthiness
[rtemplet] 12:42 pm: unworthiness is a big one.
[jackie57] 12:42 pm: she realized in the end her value was not based on the physical
[jackie57] 12:43 pm: she began to focus on her inner beauty as she relaized God's love
[jackie57] 12:44 pm: she also compared herself to others
[GingerMarks] 12:45 pm: so relating this to business, other like businesses are not competition, you have your own value to bring.
[jackie57] 12:45 pm: our modern culture sends us messages about a culturally perfect standard of acceptance difficult to meet
[Under the Waterfall]: beverly mahone has entered at 12:45 pm
[GingerMarks] 12:45 pm: welcome Bev
[Rebecca W] 12:45 pm: I know sometimes I catch myself looking at others and comparing myself to them on the outside
[jackie57] 12:45 pm: for the average person
[GingerMarks] 12:45 pm: much better Rebecca
[beverly mahone] 12:45 pm: Hi Ginger! Thanks for letting me know
[GingerMarks] 12:46 pm: lol
[rtemplet] 12:46 pm: hiya rebecca w. and beverly!
[jackie57] 12:46 pm: Comparing yourself to others brings on more self-doubt
[beverly mahone] 12:46 pm: Hey Rebecca...where have you been?
[rtemplet] 12:46 pm: catching up with day job, and then sick. but, i am baack!!
[GingerMarks] 12:47 pm: Jackie, how do we stop doing that?
[Rebecca W] 12:47 pm: Hi Rebecca T and Beverly
[jackie57] 12:47 pm: it can lead to a discrepancy between who are and who we want to be and this increases our own feelings of worth
[beverly mahone] 12:47 pm: Hey Rebecca. I finally got a chance to listen to your show. it was GREAT!
[jackie57] 12:47 pm: doing what, Ginger?
[GingerMarks] 12:48 pm: trying to be what we are not, comparing and thinking not good enough
[jackie57] 12:48 pm: The current trends in our culture encourage extreme make-overs
[beverly mahone] 12:48 pm: Hi Eula! How are you?
[jackie57] 12:48 pm: Read Psalm 139
[jackie57] 12:49 pm: the message of that Psalm teaches us we are wonderfully made
[Eula D.] 12:49 pm: I'm good Bev!
How are you?
[beverly mahone] 12:49 pm: Psalm 139:23-24 is a prayer I prayed daily for several months
[jackie57] 12:50 pm: if we compare ourselves to others, we are criticizing God's work
[beverly mahone] 12:50 pm: I'm good--just BUSY! But BUSY is good
[jackie57] 12:50 pm: See ourslelves through God's lens
[Eula D.] 12:51 pm: Jackie, what about those that live in abusive environments and are convinced that they are worthless, etc.
[rtemplet] 12:51 pm: oh my, i love that when we compare ourselves to others, we are criticizing god's work! i never thought of it that way.
[jackie57] 12:51 pm: Psalm 139 helps us to do that
[jackie57] 12:52 pm: Those persons hear negative messages and need therapy to overcome
[beverly mahone] 12:52 pm: When my daughter was small I bought her a Tshirt that said "I'm Beautiful because God don't make junk!"
[jackie57] 12:52 pm: great message
[rtemplet] 12:52 pm: good one bev!
[jackie57] 12:53 pm: Shea talks about asking her brother for affirmation of her self-worth- am I pretty?
[GingerMarks] 12:53 pm: right
[GingerMarks] 12:54 pm: he didn't say no, but he didn't say yes either
[jackie57] 12:54 pm: All of us long to be loved and we can fall into the trap of seeking approval
[beverly mahone] 12:54 pm: How can you truly give love to another human being if you don't love yourself first?
[jackie57] 12:54 pm: her brother was ambivalent
[Rebecca W] 12:55 pm: Awesome message, you are right God don't make no junk
[Eula D.] 12:55 pm: I always ask that question Bev
[jackie57] 12:55 pm: we become loving persons when we can love ourselves
[jackie57] 12:55 pm: Shea realized God loved her unconditionallly
[jackie57] 12:56 pm: even with her faults
[GingerMarks] 12:56 pm: what about, "Competition is good?"
[beverly mahone] 12:56 pm: Jackie, would you say your love of yourself is vanity in a way?
[jackie57] 12:56 pm: We have value as persons in God's eyes
[GingerMarks] 12:56 pm: good one Bev
[beverly mahone] 12:57 pm: I mean no one can love you like you and God and you can't expect to find that same kind of love from another person
[Rebecca W] 12:57 pm: I was just wonderng the same thing
[jackie57] 12:57 pm: Beverly , we cannot confuse self-care and positive feelings about self with narcissicm or vanity
[beverly mahone] 12:58 pm: ggod point
[jackie57] 12:58 pm: that is a separate problem
[beverly mahone] 12:58 pm: gotcha!
[Eula D.] 12:58 pm: learning to love others begins by learning to love yourself
[jackie57] 12:58 pm: Shea finally realized she was precious in God's eyes
[GingerMarks->Eula D.] 12:59 pm: how did you get the pretty roses?
[jackie57] 12:59 pm: and this helped her grow to love herself
[jackie57] 12:59 pm: it was a difficult process for her
[Eula D.->GingerMarks] 12:59 pm: I was fooling around in the options box
[GingerMarks->Eula D.] 12:59 pm: ya, and
[Eula D.->GingerMarks] 1:00 pm: lol and found an option for avators under the effects tab
[jackie57] 1:00 pm: In wanting to be loved, we struggle with many fears as she did
[GingerMarks->Eula D.] 1:00 pm: ty
[Eula D.->GingerMarks] 1:00 pm: yw
[jackie57] 1:01 pm: In Scripture, God gives us assurance of His love
[jackie57] 1:01 pm: go to:http://www.networkingforher.com/blogs/godward
[jackie57] 1:02 pm: I posted the Scriptures there for you
[jackie57] 1:03 pm: In Paslam 139, David teaches we were woven together by God in our mother's womb
[rtemplet] 1:03 pm: thank you jackie, i have to run. take care!
[jackie57] 1:03 pm: God loves us enough to care about every detail of our formation as persons
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[jackie57] 1:04 pm: Psalm 139 teaches God does not make mistakes
[jackie57] 1:05 pm: and therefore,David proclaims, we are fearfully and wonderfully made
[jackie57] 1:05 pm: We seem to srtive to fit into the idea of beauty prescribed by man
[jackie57] 1:06 pm: so we decide on self-improvements and this lowers our sense of self-worth
[jackie57] 1:07 pm: Most people can think of attributes they would like to change
[GingerMarks] 1:07 pm: everybody except that one gal in the story.
[GingerMarks] 1:07 pm: lol
[jackie57] 1:07 pm: and spend inordinate amounts of time trying to be someone else
[jackie57] 1:08 pm: rather than appreciating their own uniqueness
[jackie57] 1:08 pm: Early on,Shea was very insecure
[jackie57] 1:08 pm: she had to grow to love herself
[jackie57] 1:09 pm: with God's help
[jackie57] 1:09 pm: Modern culture does not give us assurance of our self-worth, so understanding God's perspective
[jackie57] 1:10 pm: is more of a positive step
[jackie57] 1:10 pm: for the individual struggling with low self-worth
[jackie57] 1:11 pm: We can express a thankful attitude for our uniquness, or gifts
[jackie57] 1:12 pm: a thankful attitude will affect our thoughts about self in a positive way
[jackie57] 1:12 pm: and lead us away from measuring ourselves against society's standard of beauty
[jackie57] 1:13 pm: If we study nature, we will find diverse beauty
[GingerMarks] 1:13 pm: right
[jackie57] 1:13 pm: individuals also express diverseness in physical attrbutes
[jackie57] 1:14 pm: diversity glorifies God
[jackie57] 1:14 pm: To me an Australian aboriginal is beautiful
[jackie57] 1:15 pm: much more so than cover girls and boys
[GingerMarks] 1:15 pm: have you looked at a Tongan lately? LOL
[jackie57] 1:15 pm: I appreciate the uniquness in all of God's creation
[jackie57] 1:16 pm: God pays more attention to the inner man
[GingerMarks] 1:17 pm: yes
[jackie57] 1:17 pm: If you read through those Scriptures, it may enlighten you:http://www.networkingforher.com/blogs/godward
[jackie57] 1:18 pm: 1Samuel 16: 1-13 shows us how God looks mainly at the issues of the heart
[jackie57] 1:18 pm: Does any one have any questions?
[jackie57] 1:18 pm: It's almost itme to close
[Eula D.] 1:19 pm: of the scriptures you have given us...
[GingerMarks] 1:19 pm: So we should accept the value that God places on us.
[GingerMarks] 1:19 pm: embrace it and know we are here to help others
[jackie57] 1:20 pm: yes
[GingerMarks] 1:20 pm: not to fight each other, but to lift each other up
[Eula D.] 1:20 pm: which would you recommendfor giving the most powerful message to a confused teenager in todays society trying to cope with their own self image
[GingerMarks] 1:20 pm: So, in business, how can we apply these principles?
[jackie57] 1:20 pm: loving God and others and n focusing on ourselves
[Rebecca W] 1:21 pm: great questions Eula
[jackie57] 1:21 pm: Glorify God in your business and all you do
[Eula D.] 1:21 pm: ty Rebecca
[jackie57] 1:21 pm: Teenagers need support in all areas
[jackie57] 1:22 pm: encouragement and praise from family
[GingerMarks] 1:22 pm: teenagers respond to the inner beauty thing with, "ya right". Now tell me something that I can work with.
[Eula D.] 1:22 pm: lol some do, but it really depends on how you approach them with it
[jackie57] 1:23 pm: they need to take responsibility for their growth as persons
[GingerMarks] 1:23 pm: they are trying so hard to be different, by fitting in.
[jackie57] 1:24 pm: and spend time with positive people
[Eula D.] 1:24 pm: I seem to have magic touch with the young ones, but don't always think I have the right words ...and I'm secretly working on a book directed at this which is why I'm picking Jackies brain like this lol
[jackie57] 1:25 pm: Teenagers can be encouraged to identify what they are good at-their individual gifts
[Eula D.] 1:25 pm: teenage girls are our future business women, I'd like them to have the tools from the start
[Rebecca W] 1:26 pm: awesome Eula
[Rebecca W] 1:26 pm: I have an older son who is autistic so it's even harder for him to love himself for who he is
[jackie57] 1:26 pm: :clap:
[jackie57] 1:27 pm: Thank you for your time
[Rebecca W] 1:27 pm: Thank you for speaking Jackie
[Eula D.] 1:27 pm: you'd be amazed Rebecca, I worked with an autistc boy in college and his mom was amazed by the way I was able to reach him
[GingerMarks] 1:27 pm: Rebecca, you must be a very special lady to have been blessed with an autistic child.
[Rebecca W] 1:27 pm: hmmm
[Eula D.] 1:27 pm: Thank you so much, Jackie!!! You wre wonderful
[Rebecca W] 1:27 pm: aw thank you Ginger
[GingerMarks] 1:28 pm: Thank you Jackie for presenting.
[GingerMarks] 1:28 pm: Will you please post your email and URL so the ladies can contact you.
[jackie57] 1:28 pm: I have two nephews with Aspergers syndrome and I send them notes of encouragement
[jackie57] 1:28 pm: yw Ginger
[jackie57] 1:29 pm: jonealarts@verizon.net
[GingerMarks] 1:29 pm: what's that Jackie?
[Rebecca W] 1:29 pm: That is what my older son has
[Rebecca W] 1:29 pm: its a higher functioning form of autism
[GingerMarks] 1:29 pm: ty
[Rebecca W] 1:29 pm: yw
[jackie57] 1:29 pm: yes, I think my mother was the carrier
[jackie57] 1:30 pm: let's talk again soon, rebecca
[Rebecca W] 1:30 pm: yes let's I am working on a project right now I will be in contact with you soon
[GingerMarks] 1:30 pm: Ladies thank you for coming. I will archive this chat by Friday.
[Eula D.] 1:30 pm: My husband has been researching asbergers since someone suggested that he may hve it
[jackie57] 1:30 pm: http://www.nbbta.org/radio Channel 18
[jackie57] 1:31 pm: Listen to Channel 18
[Rebecca W] 1:31 pm: thank you Jackie
[Rebecca W] 1:31 pm: I have been doing a lot of research Eula, maybe your hubby and i cna compare notes sometime
[jackie57] 1:31 pm: I'm doing a series on the history of the Church
[Eula D.] 1:31 pm: That would be great, Rebecca
[jackie57] 1:32 pm: Have a peaceful day+
[Rebecca W] 1:32 pm: great
[Rebecca W] 1:32 pm: you have a great day too Jackie
[Eula D.] 1:32 pm: you too, Jackie! Thanks again
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[jackie57] 1:32 pm: yw